Martyn

I've been watching with great interest a thread on vwvortex on turbo-ing a mk5 R32.

C2 motorsports have developed this kit:

https://www.c2motorsports.net/shop/p...8-mkv-r32.aspx

Basically its a bolt on turbo - no head spacer needed - turbo only runs at 9psi (so install should be wee buns).

Anyway it develops 320bhp at the wheels - approx 370bhp at the flywheel.

Seems a bargin at $7k.

I have been in contact with them and they can use the same kit for our RHD manual cars.

Do C2 have a dealer over here - or will I have to ship the turbo kit in?

Cheers for any help in advance.

  Wayne

Martyn, i believe the C2 UK guys are in fact members on here, and there is a uk website, id give them a call and speak to them see what they see. Looks a fantastic kit however.

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  idivuoma

cheapest one i've seen so far (but haven't seen that much)

looks like a good one tho I havent understood the DSG compatibility with superchargers/turbos?
And does that above mention turbo-kit contain everthing to install (tubes, cables, screws etc)? and does it need a intake-kit + exhaust to work better?

  mark

do u no wat wud b beta if u bort a tro or r100 an fited the kseries 1.8 turbo from da 75

  James (caxton01)

Time for bed Mark

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  idivuoma

Anyone know if that C2 conversion is certified or approved by VAG or the general agent (VW)? if not, the insurance company won't be that happy

  magpie2k

i love that txt speak (not) , i sometimes think it would take longer to actually work out the abbreviated characters to a word, instead of just typing it. Maybe i'm getting old.

is this guy banned from the site ?

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If anyone has any enquiries please direct them to sale@c2motorsports.co.uk

We dont have time to look through and reply to posts on forums.

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  davefish

Fair enough chap. Will you come on here and post when you have some significant news?

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  SWC

tis a very tempting proposition the C2 set up,

  idivuoma

Just recieved a mail from C2 Motorsports, about the insurance question. The turbo is not VW certified!
Bad news for those who pay alot of insurance or still have ther new-car-warranty, as insurances usually don't cover engine-mods that are not VAG or VW approved/certified.

  SWC

Insurance regs sound different in Sweden than the UK,

I don't know of any company up to now that insists modifications are VW approved.

I can understand the VW warranty side of things will go out of the window with a turbo mod but the insurance side should only be a matter of a telephone call to add it and possibly an extra charge on your policy.

  idivuoma

probably a slight difference in policies. Had a long tele-talk with my insurance company, and they weren't that happy about my turbo plans regarding the enginefailure-insurance.
I'm insured if I crash and die, but if my cooler, transmission, pistonheads etc pop out and fly away then I'm without a car and the insurance won't help me. That's if I install a turbo.

  Slapbladder

Most engine upgrades are NOT VW certified. You might get away with Airfilter etc
They still have the right to tell you to bugger off over Warranty issues.
You are talking about the same insurance points as we have here. You are insured again hitting someone else and your person....but engine parts/failure are not insured. I don't know any insurance company that would ever cover engine parts.
If you let your insurance company know what you have on the car they will cover you against them being damaged in an accident not through you breaking a part.

  idivuoma

In sweden, they usually insure enginefailure.. but only if the engine is standard up to 8 years or 10000-15000 km.

The transmission on my previous MKIV 1.6 broke, got a new installed for free because of the insurance.

Is it similar in UK and other countries?

  Slapbladder

NOPE and you answered your own question about the engine only being insured if its standard.....TURBO on any VR6 is not standard.....

  SWC

Insure against engine failure mmm, I can see the UK roads full of flat out screaming banshees with no care for maintenance cos the insurance company will pick up the reapir tab.

Good if your in Sweden and get it though.

  idivuoma

lol, don't know where we're goin with this conversation... cause I'm getting confused by your answers

I know is not a standard, that's why my insurance company aint that happy about it.
But are the insurance policies (as above mentioned) similar in UK?

  Slapbladder

I am refering to this statement above....you sounded suprised at the Turbo not being VW certified which would be the case for any turbo and any tuner. You are on a UK website and are talking about insurance things that do not apply. Most people will not tune their cars unless they are out of warranty.
Hope this explains things and your confusion.

  Mattchaps

What sort of price would you MkV owners want to pay for a turbo kit (supply & install). I'm in email discussions with C2 UK at the moment and trying to gather some information. They seem keen about the idea of a group buy MkIV & MkV and would be happy to offer a discount if we manage to put a GB together.

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  idivuoma

jepp, that how it works. and it's much depending on what kind of policies insurancecompnies have. For example my company doesn't insure if my clutch gets smoked because of wear and tear.
But you have to get your vehicle served if the enginefailure insurance is supposed to be valid.

  topher

Would be nice if we paid a similar figure to the yanks, rather than just changing the $ sign to a £ sign at the front of the number like so many other companies do.

Its advertised at $8000, so say £4500 - 5000 for the hardware and £750-ish for install.

  SWC

would be nice if the price in the UK actually resembled something that did not involve pulling your pants down and slapping your arse with Gordon Browns rape the people stick.

  Rupo

I would spend £6000 - 7000 for anything over 380bhp.
Thing is with these big power conversions is that you forget that you have to factor another 2grand in for the brakes and another 700 or so for the clutch. And then suspension, exhaust etc.

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The price of the UK kits are never going to be comparable to the USA prices. We have import taxes and VAT to pay on top of shipping costs. So instantly you have to add over 20% (2.3% import duty before 17.5%VAT is applied) on top of the USA price, on top of the very variable exchange rate. In addtion to this there are costs of RHD hardware development and also UK specific software development and support.

So lets do some math here:
using the USA MK4 R32 Stage 2 price as an example: $8499
Lets say shipping to the UK is $501
This give a total of $9000
Todays base exchange rate is: 1.7802 $/GBP - ANYWHERE will charge commision on top of this rate.
So we have $9000/1.7802=£5055.61
So now we have to add 20% to the £5055.61 which is £6066.73
So from this you can see it is NEVER going to be less than £6066, with the rates used.

Applying this to the USA MK5 R32 turbo kit, the price is $7999
Lets say shipping to the UK is $501
This give a total of $8500
Todays base exchange rate is: 1.7802 $/GBP - ANYWHERE will charge commision on top of this rate.
So we have $8500/1.7802=£4774.74
So now we have to add 20% to the £4774.74 which is £5729.89

So as with the above MK4 example, at the rates used the price will never be less than £5729.89


Please take note that all the figures used in this post are variables and are liable to change.

No actual prices have been implied or given in this discussion.

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