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Just got back from the Phirm today woth some new pics so thought it was about time to start the story from the begining on my journey to building my Mk4 R32 Turbo.

The story goes back to me owning a Black Corrado VR6. She was my baby for 7 superb years. My original intention towards the end of my ownership was to turbo charge it and install 4wd. However one day I just thought it was time for a change, the Corrado was starting to 'feel' quite old. I bought her with 50k on the clock and sold her with 130k. So my search for a new car was on.

I drove everything out there. M3's, TVR's, Boxter's etc. Although the TVR's (Tamora + T350C) I were looking at were awesome, they were just too much work for every day. Then in one garage I saw a Subaru Impreza P1. I did not know too much about it but after a test drive knew that a P1 would be my next car. So after extensive research I found the perfect example which was running about 330BHP.

All was good but I soon realised that to keep my pride and joy in the A1 condition I like them to be in, I had to buy a second car as a daily run around. I was too scared to leave the P1 anywhere, it stuck out like a sore thumb!! Plus it only had 25k on the clock and was in day 1 factory condition.

I then bought a Golf Mk1 Cabriolet as my daily runner - a superb car but thats another story all in itself!!

In one journey in the P1, I came up against a Mk4 R32. I must be honest and say that I really made him look like he was going backwards!! There was absolutely no contest in speed.

After about a year I realised I was not 100% 'in love' with my car like I was with my Corrado. It was probably because I did not drive it that much and when I did I was paranoid to leave it anywhere. So the decision was made to sell it and look for a suitable alternative.....

The new search meant my options were now tweaked to only include cars that did not 'stick out like a sore thumb'!!! I also wanted 4wd, and would not entertain anything else. Although I was very tempted by a BMW M Coupe but to be honest I felt too claustrophobic inside it.

I did think about the R32 - When it first came out I had a deposit on one. However the Dealer at the time told me it would only be coming in Blue and I wanted Black so it was cancelled. When I found out they then allowed different colours I decided to stick with my Corrado.

Then I test drove an R32 that had been turbo'd. It was I think the 1st or 2nd one in the UK to use the EIP kit - yes I know before you all shout about EIP!!

The R32 was in Volkswagen Driver April 2006 and basically the guy fitted the kit himself with help from VR6 Specialist in Netherlands. I read the article and then went to drive the car and was seriously impressed. Unfortunately it had unexplained repaired damage that I was not happy about and the guy was not impressed with my offer, which I thought was more than fair at the time.

So I then thought about building my own. This was January 2008.

In February my hunt for the perfect R32 then led me to ebay and something I have never ever done.....bought a car without seeing it!!

There was an R32 in Black, full leather and 14k on the clock. It was being sold from a Police compound. After much research into the situation I later found out that the car was taken off someone as part of an asset seizure and it then sat in a Police compound for just over 2 years. They were then allowed to sell it and it was put up for auction.

There was 2 days left on the auction and it was in Blackpool, some 5 hours away from me so no chance in viewing it - especially as you had to pre-book with the Police!

So I took the gamble. I thought, the price with that mileage in good condition would have been about 16k / 17k at the time so even if there is a bit of damage I could pay to get it repaired and it would still be a good price. I put my bid in at £11,500. And I was the winning bidder with I think £11,250!!! Oh my god start the heart pumping, what have I done?? You have just spent 11k on a car without even seeing it!! And I'm meant to be a Financial Adviser!!

So then it was a long drive to pick up my new baby and trailor it to Tim at the Phirm. Tim then checked the car all over, MOT'd it and gave it a clean bill of health. The only problem was a scratch down the passenger rear quarter panel and that was it, so not too bad at all!! It turned out to be the right decision.

Now the hunt was on for a Turbo. Tim at the Phirm had looked after all my cars for a lomng time so he was always going to be the person to do all the work and advise me what was going to work best.

A turbo kit became available which just happend to be a brand new yet to be fitted EIP kit. I discussed my concerns with Tim about EIP but after talking to him and doing some research it quickly became apparent that the actual quality of the kit was great and I knew Tim knew what he was doing so was happy to leave him to it.

Due to a few communication issues, work was a little delayed on the R. The first mod I actually carried out was the Diamond Cut and Polished alloys with new R centre caps. I originally had these done to my Corrado and was very pleased with the finish that I now have. I opted to have the inserts painted in black to match the body work. These were then fitted to the car in about October of last year.

In June of this year my car was then taken to the Phirm. I was actually going to be the first car to be worked on in their brand new workshop. I was really impressed with the new place much better than before!

I went to see the car after a month or so and all the pipe work for the intercooler had been done. Tim had just finished all the work he was doing on the manifolds. All the work is custom to fit specifically for my car. The work gone into what Tim has done is amazing, it really is a piece of arwork seeing all the intricate cuts and welds he had to make.

I had to then buy a new stereo as Tim was going to remove the factory one to make room for some new guages! I really like the clean original look so liked Tim's suggestion in putting in a single din stereo and then housing the guages above. I have not got any pics of this yet but I will post them up as soon as I do. They will light up to exactly the same colour as the dials already there so will tie in quite nicely at night time.

The brakes was a long process in working out what to have. I have seen what a lot of people have fitted and tried a few different R's to see how they feel. But in the end I wanted what I had in my Subaru, AP Racing. They really are the best in my opinion.

However, AP do not make a setup for the R, only an upgrade for the GTi. If I go for that I actually decrease the size of my disc, not good!

So I believe what we have now is an AP Racing setup for an Audi RS4. I will then have the AP Racing 6 pot callipers that I was aftter and 362mm discs. I can't wait to try these babies out.

Today I was at the Phirm to take some pics of all the bits I have had ceramic coated from Zircotec. I am amazed at what they can do and after doing some reaearch and speaking to them, decided to get all the manifolds done, turbo housing, down pipe and boost pipe.

These arrived back yesterday so it can all go back together now. Once Tim has done this I will be hopefully going down soonish to then test drive and then take down to the rollers!

I have put some pics in to give you an idea of what has been happening.

I hope you enjoy reading and I will be posting updates as soon as the arrive!! Hopefully the next update will be pics of the completed install and then a roadtest!

Regards

James
 

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Great post James, looking forward to seeing how this develops.

Reckon you'll be up for the rolling road day in December?! :D
 

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Hi James

Very good post btw !

I remember the police auction that you said about and you getting the car !

Well good luck in getting the turbo sorted and hope to see you'r car at a meet once finished
 

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hiya, good story and am sure it will be great when done. i heard about this from jeremy at rk engineering who visited the phirm with steve swg.

but i really hope you have answers to the following questions, unlike the guy who had the eip kit installed by awesome and then ran into problems

1 - what eip kit is?
2 - which turbo is it?
3 - who you going to get to do the mapping?
 

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Thanks James, look forward to seeing you at a meet too.

Pomme,

1 It was the kit designed for the R32, don't know if it has a specific name or not.
2 Turbonetics I think
3 VR6 Specialist in Holland

Why so much concern?
 

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jamesvr6 said:
Thanks James, look forward to seeing you at a meet too.

Pomme,

1 It was the kit designed for the R32, don't know if it has a specific name or not.
2 Turbonetics I think
3 VR6 Specialist in Holland

Why so much concern?
Lets just say im sure you dont want a blown up engine like i and a few other uk owners have experienced. I just dont want other people to have to experience what i had to and am just trying to make sure you dont.

Have you spoken to ronald about doing the map?
 

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Appeciate your help and understand you have had issues in the past. But the people working on my car do know what they are doing and have done similar conversions so I do not have any concerns regarding them blowing up my engine. I really do not think they would be in business for long if that was their trademark! A lot of time and effort has gone into this, this has not been 'thrown' together.

I have not spoken to Ronald? I assume he works at VR6? Tim at the Phirm is dealing with everything for me including communicating with VR6 Specialist. Any help or advice you can pass on would be much appreciated.
 

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James, see thats the problem with the eip kits in that the kit is actually very very good, its the mapping which lets them down. Put it this way there is a member on here who i told this to a few years ago but didnt listen. He took the kit and car to a very very very well known firm and had it installed. Becuase of the mapping there were problems but to save face the company paid to have it repaired although i can 100% it was nothing to do with them that the problems occured and it was the mapping.

Im not trying to suggest it has at all and i know Tim does a great job, although i have never met him, just seen some of his work and heard how much Steve SWG praises him, which is no mean feat.

One piece of advice i would say tho is it you have the eip turbonetics turbo which is just oil cooled i would def change it to one which is oil and water cooled otherwise it will get real hot under there.
 

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No worries, appreciate your advice, I will double check the turbo and see. I know what you are saying about the kit and the mapping. This was discussed with Tim and it was after reading your blog that I was talking to Tim about using VR6 for the mapping. :top:

Don't forget though, everything has been ceramic coated to help with heat issues
 

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interested to hear more about the AP brakes as this is an option i was considering as i have not been overly impressed with the other kits. I have always been impressed by AP on other cars.

Do the calipers have dust seals on for road usage. or are they pure race calipers?
 

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I will have to check for you but as far as I am aware they are road calipers. The kit is designed for the Audi RS4. I have had AP in the past too and they were amazing!!! So wanted to fit them again, as you say I have not been too impressed with some of the other options out there either.
 

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did you ever have problems with the phirm in regard to updating and contacting you?

i order a cf bonnet and to be fitted along with the revo remap, and it's been like 1-2months now! i even paid a £400 deposit! i may have to pop in there AGAIN... *rolls eyes*
 

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If I am totally honest then yes that can be a problem. It should not really be like that but I trust their work so much I would not go anywhere else. You can't have everything perfect!!
 

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i don't see your baby at the phirm anymore! is the R ready to come out and play buddy? see you this sunday at the quays??
 
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