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Hi All,

Recently purchased my R32 this weekend but only just realizing a few issues which i needed advice on, My car is a DSG if this helps narrow down a few issues which im hoping to have rectified this weekend.

Currently the engine runs strong but i have noticed that when idling the vehicle shakes ever so slightly, I have physically seen the engine rocking slightly back and forth which indicates to me that a engine mount is a bit shot. I was wondering if this is common and i have a feeling that a dogbone mount is the culprit? If this is the case would it be advisable to use the powerflex smaller bush or would it be better to purchase a whole new dogbone mount? I have checked the RPMs when idling and the engine idles smooth with no fluctuation, I have noticed it is a bit lower than some .:Rs. My idle with the heating element off sits at around 600-650, When heating is on it will at most go up to 700rpm. The idle is very steady though so i do not see an issue with it at all. The vibration is more apparent in the cabin when the car is in Neutral or Park. I do not notice any vibrations whilst driving only when sitting on idle. If i sit in Idle in D with my foot on the brake i dont really notice it within the cabin.

My other problem which was apparent on the recent MOT was related to front shock absorbers leaking which need replacing, I am thinking of going for a coilover kit along with new top mounts, I am noticing however that when i turn the steering at low speed i am getting a knocking sound, This is regardless of which way i turn would anyone be able to put my mind at rest and just advise of common steering rack issues? I know its an electric steering rack on these but im hoping that it is suspension related.

Final issue is when breaking or rolling slowly there is a slight whurring noise which i think is related to the wheel bearing or again it could even be suspension related, My DSG works perfectly in my view but if anyone knows of common problems to help me cancel out any DSG issues it would be much appreciated
 

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hello mate, ive currently got that slight knocking noise on the front left at low speeds when turn!? was going to post. seems to be more obvious when its hot or car been running a while. ive got a mk4 but must be something similar?
 

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I have dsg model and your rpm is not low. It is common to sit between 450 - 600 rpm at idle and the odd shake will most likely be due to it being a v6 and you may find that when you rev it a little you will get movement from the engine however if you look at videos on YouTube for example there are clips of the exhaust which moves when revved due to engine and also in the engine bay the intake snorkel also has a loose fit to compensate for engine movement so when it moves or is revved the engine will move as such and the intake seal is tighter.
 

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Took it to my mechanic today, Confirmed that the control arm bushes have play in them. The mounts were checked on the engine and they had slight play but nothing which seemed well out of line.

The larger concern came from vibration in park and neutral, There is a strange noise from the lower part of the engine which is causing it to shake, Diagnostic was carried out and it threw the following code P0322 (Engine speed input circuit) we have a feeling this could be the flywheel? Anyone able to shed some light on flywheel issues on the dsg
 

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The flywheel is a dual mass type, which have been known to fail. To be honest I've only heard of a couple failing on R32s.
 

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I have been monitoring it quite closely and there is certainly something wrong. Just to confirm my idle is steady at 600rpm, no fluctuations. However if i slightly rev it up to around 800rpm the vibration is more apparent.

i did an old test using a screw driver near the oil cap to amplify the chain sound, i couldn't hear the sound increase in anyway. My guess is still on the flywheel. My second concern started beginning with the dreaded chain stretch issue, I understand this can be measured using vagcom and checking blocks 208-209.

Is there any other common things to look out for chain stretching on the MKV? This will at least help eliminate one major issue. I can however hear the noise more when i stand near the passenger wheel area.

On the scan we carried out the other day only one fault code showed

P0322 - DTC 00802
Ignition/Distributor engine speed input circuit G28: No Signal
 

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Is it a constant vibration or the odd occasional every 3-5 secs or more or so? If its constant it will be flywheel but otherwise will just be the engine movement n
 

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Its not constant as such, Maybe more noticeable every 3-5 seconds. Its certainly not completely normal thats for sure. The mechanical sound is apparent after a while. The sound can be replicated the moment the car is put in N or in P.

Im possibly cancelling out any chain issues for the moment, Plugged the car into VCDS and had a look at block 208 & 209 at idle.

The results were as follows 208 -3 & 209 -2, The technician drove the car and mentioned the engine feels like it runs healthy no flat spots, To note the car has always been on 10k service intervals and has full VW service history.

The p0322 fault code has not reappeared again either and it has been driven a few 100 miles, No warning lights have ever come on the dash to date, The fault code picked up yesterday did not show a MIL, It only came up on the computer once a scan was carried out.
 

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The thing is if a dmf goes or is going it is constantly felt as it is turning constantly an no need or reasoning can be given for it to do it every so often so if it is every 3+ secs or so I would say it is engine related not flywheel . . . However I would say that the noise you are on about is possibly flywheel if put in park and neutral as the car isn't in gear. Mine does this slightly however its is not at the point where I believe it is something to worry about after a chat with a vw tech as the gear changes are smooth and in general cannot be felt, just in the odd occasion and this will happen anyway as it is not the latest version of dsg which is the 7spd.

People do get little odd occasional noises but its when it does it a fair bit or nearly all the time that it is to worry about.
If you look at comments some people don't like dsg for clunk iness or jerkiness which it can be but also if you have a manual if it isn't smooth or it feel abit 'different' when changing gears sometimes then that's it too. I wouldn't necessarily say the two are related as for example. My mother has a v6 in here mondeo which will not shake but have the odd 'movement' or so and if you blip the throttle like in the r32 it will give a little shake, that's normal.
 

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I think the noise your hearing is the DMF which I have heard slightly on others but unless its vibrating heavily as you go it even a bit it isn't toooo much to worry about. The purpose of a DMF over single is to reduce vibration however it wouldn't be irregular. I don't believe it would be that and I think it's engine related if anything, get it checked for sure but certainly don't worry either. All things can be sorted.
 

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Thanks for the input Dan, I was told similar by the tech not to worry about it or at least wait until the problem becomes more apparent. My only concern however is if it does go bad the consequences or damages that it can cause. I have one more booking with another specialist on the weekend, I will get there view and diagnosis to be sure, The only other thing im thinking is taking out an extended warranty for peace of mind as there is so much that can go wrong and the cost to repair is very high on these. I will head out for another drive maybe later today to see if the vibration is constant. Im sure it is, It does take a moment or two to kick in but i think once left in neutral the slight vibration is constant throughout until the car is put into D.
 

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Well hope that goes good for you. Yes things are expensive but they are good build quality and not many things known to fail. My car has that slight noise but I can't remember what exactly but there is solenoid noises you may hear. It could quite possibly be dmf however if you look up symptoms on any car then vibration which would have to be constant are the symptoms. I can't say if both things are related but as I said before v6 to have a little wobble sometimes but whatever it is I'm sure will work out. The best thing to do is get a warranty extended or new one. The question Wilson endorsed one is good but also there Is a pay as go warranty which you can pay £214 for one year or it works out at £388 or there abouts for three and you can also pay it in instalments as 20% deposit and not many payments which is good. Get it earlier as the lower mileage may get you a different level of cover.
 

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Thanks again Dan, I didnt quite catch the warranty recommendation? Was it Wilson? It seems quite reasonable around that price, I was looking at others which are more mainstream like warranty direct they work out extremely expensive.
 

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Go car warranty are quite good if you have a look at the website also Volkswagen website for extended warranties too. Question Wilson endorsed one which may well be warranty direct but yes they're around £700 a year.
 
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