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After a few reviews on rear ARB's

Looking at the Whiteline 22mm rear to go with my 24mm front

Would be ideal to hear from someone who has had a 22 ish mm bar then uprated to something like a Neuspeed and if there is a difference with a 25/28mm bar?

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When replaced mine I left the front standard. I have an H&R adjustable one on the rear set to firm.
 

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What size is your rear and how much difference do you think its made? Where did you just get the rear as there mainly sold as kits
 

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I got the bar off here mate, I think it's 22mm. It made a huge difference, improves turn in and helps to get rid of understeer, makes the front end feel more direct and pointed.
 

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Think I'll give the Whiteline bar a go then
bit disappointed the 24mm is being re-designed but the front bar made a massive difference so the rear can only help the handling more!
 

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What are the standard sizes? 23mm front and 21mm rear?

The 22mm Whiteline would be a nice upgrade for the rear leaving the front one standard.

Where is this 22mm arb? Last time I went onto Whiteline's site, they didn't even list any bars for a MK4 R32.

Imo, 28/25 bars are too big for a road car and you'll come a cropper when you least expect it in the rain. Been there, got the T shirt
 

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What are the standard sizes? 23mm front and 21mm rear?

The 22mm Whiteline would be a nice upgrade for the rear leaving the front one standard.

Where is this 22mm arb? Last time I went onto Whiteline's site, they didn't even list any bars for a MK4 R32.

Imo, 28/25 bars are too big for a road car and you'll come a cropper when you least expect it in the rain. Been there, got the T shirt
The standard sizes are 23mm front and 19mm rear

I've just went for it! 22mm Whiteline Rear ordered
conveniently I sell them on www.AdvancedPerformanceParts.co.uk they used to do a 24mm bar thats being re-designed but it could be months so for what its worth the 22mm should be more than good enough for what i'm after, i'd just be using on the road and some occasional tack use

When you say come a cropper? What actually happened and was it definitely the larger bar that caused it?
 

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Ah yes, you're the chap who sells them, I forgot!

I think a 22mm would work well with the stock front bar imo. It'll sharpen up the turn-in but will increase the liklihood of cocking a rear wheel on tight turns


I think I need to get one. Do you need to drop the exhaust to fit it or can you negotiate the bar around the exhaust in situ?

I've tried a few ARB combinations over the years, but admittedly on FWD VWs, but the prinicpal is the same. The R32 has extra weight and wider tyres on it's side though, so has more mechanically grip compared to FWD.

I got caught out twice. The first time was with Neuspeed 28/25s on my Corrado VR6. That car also had a quaife diff but whilst the dry cornering was exceptionally flat, I ploughed into a wet roundabout a little too fast and understeered right off it! I'd previously taken the roundabout at the same speed in the wet with the stock bars and had no problems. The 25mm bar was just waaaaay too big for the car imo, but as with all these components, they're sold as 'race' parts only and come with disclaimers.

2nd time was when I had an Eibach 25mm rear bar and stock front bar. Beautiful turn in, understeer more or less erradicated but this time I lost the back end, again on a wet roundabout. I did a 180 and buckled a rear wheel when it thumped into the kerb.

I'm not a driving god and neither am I numpty. These two incidents happened over 9 years, so it's not like I was losing it every weekend!

I'm not trying to put anyone off ARBs, far from it, but just to warn people to be careful in the wet with them


And lastly, the thicker the ARB, the worse the ride quality becomes because they effectively increase the spring rate. The car can very easily get thrown off course by mid corner bumps.
 
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