I don't think that would work as most of the price of fuel goes to the government in duty and vat...so if you don't use either of them company's and use different ones to buy fuel the government still get your cash.

 

I don't think that would work as most of the price of fuel goes to the government in duty and vat...so if you don't use either of them company's and use different ones to buy fuel the government still get your cash.

Exactly what I was going to say also, it's a stupid idea. Cost of duty/tax per litre far outweighs the cost of the fuel.

 

Sounds great in theory,but it could never work in practice,Esso & BP have such a large monopoly..If they were boycotted there would mile long queues at the smaller independants.. as Paulie says 75% goes to the government..There is talk though of them waiving the increase set for April,then we"ll all be happy and forget about it, or so theyre hoping.hmmmm.

 

To give you an idea....

This breakdown of the price of petrol is based on the assumption of a £1 per litre of petrol. (Taken a while back)

Petrol Fuel Duty - 48.35p
VAT (17.5%) - 14.9p
Refinery Petrol Costs - 31.75p
Forecourt Costs - 3p
Forecourt Profit - 2p

2011 Fuel Tax Figures

A 0.76p increase on the 1st January 2011 brought the duty rate for the main road fuels up to 58.95p per litre. This coincided with the 2.5% increase in VAT rate, which is now at record high of 20%.

 

I understand you're fed up with fuel prices (like the rest of us) but here's my view.

There are people in Africa who can't afford to eat and don't have access to clean Water and yet we sit in our warm homes with cupboards full of food and clean running water complaining we have to spend an extra £2.50 a month on fuel for our luxury cars. The point is life isn't fair, but I personally think we have it pretty dam good.

As for Fuel, there are 4 petrol stations in my small town, Esso and BP are the cheapest of the 4...

Also although these companies make a lot of money you have to remember finding oil is VERY risky. These companies risk £ Billions digging for oil and more often than not they get nothing. Then you have the risk factor of leaks or spills and having to pay out £ Billions for that. Not forgetting that oil is slowly running out, therefore these people are in a business that is going to end in the future.

Despite all this the government is what makes fuel so expensive (like others have said above). Then you've got the fact that us petrol heads contribute more to global warming than the average driver :laugh:

 

ive only ever used tesco or shell anyway so it dont bother me about boycotting esso or bp, ive signed The Sun petition to try and stop the gov putting the tax up even more in the next budget, you can do that online.. same as last year with the lorries going slow on the motorways etc coz the price of fuel but it didnt get em very far.. to be honest i really dont think there is much us minority can do anything about it except rant and rave til were blue in the face but still not get anywhere!!

 

I understand you're fed up with fuel prices (like the rest of us) but here's my view.

There are people in Africa who can't afford to eat and don't have access to clean Water and yet we sit in our warm homes with cupboards full of food and clean running watercomplaining we have to spend an extra £2.50 a month on fuel for our luxury cars. The point is life isn't fair, but I personally think we have it pretty dam good.

As for Fuel, there are 4 petrol stations in my small town, Esso and BP are the cheapest of the 4...

Also although these companies make a lot of money you have to remember finding oil is VERY risky. These companies risk £ Billions digging for oil and more often than not they get nothing. Then you have the risk factor of leaks or spills and having to pay out £ Billions for that. Not forgetting that oil is slowly running out, therefore these people are in a business that is going to end in the future.

Despite all this the government is what makes fuel so expensive (like others have said above). Then you've got the fact that us petrol heads contribute more to global warming than the average driver :laugh:

If you ever worked in Africa like I have you would see all the oil and gas rigs they have....The place should be like Saudi with ALL the people getting a share of the wealth but they never see it...the people at the top keep it for themselves

 

:afraid:

I understand you're fed up with fuel prices (like the rest of us) but here's my view.

There are people in Africa who can't afford to eat and don't have access to clean Water and yet we sit in our warm homes with cupboards full of food and clean running water complaining we have to spend an extra £2.50 a month on fuel for our luxury cars. The point is life isn't fair, but I personally think we have it pretty dam good.

As for Fuel, there are 4 petrol stations in my small town, Esso and BP are the cheapest of the 4...

Also although these companies make a lot of money you have to remember finding oil is VERY risky. These companies risk £ Billions digging for oil and more often than not they get nothing. Then you have the risk factor of leaks or spills and having to pay out £ Billions for that. Not forgetting that oil is slowly running out, therefore these people are in a business that is going to end in the future.

Despite all this the government is what makes fuel so expensive (like others have said above). Then you've got the fact that us petrol heads contribute more to global warming than the average driver :laugh:

Some good points well put mate..Did you know the methane from cows contributes more to global warming than all the worlds cars put together.:afraid:

 

Yea I think I heard that on Top Gear lol so wasn't sure if it was true or not :laugh:

Apparently Volcanoes contribute more than Cars as well???

I've also heard that Britain contributes to 0.01% of Global Warming and therefore if we as a nation bought the most economical cars possible, drove only when necessary, used public transport as often as possible, boiled the kettle rather than using the gas cooker to heat water and always turned lights and the TV off when leaving the room that it would make virtually NO difference to the world.

Anyone confirm that? Or is it rubbish?

 

If you ever worked in Africa like I have you would see all the oil and gas rigs they have....The place should be like Saudi with ALL the people getting a share of the wealth but they never see it...the people at the top keep it for themselves

That's sad...

What work were you doing in Africa if you don't mind me asking, you weren't working on a rig were you??? :laugh:

 

Yea I think I heard that on Top Gear lol so wasn't sure if it was true or not :laugh:

Apparently Volcanoes contribute more than Cars as well???

I've also heard that Britain contributes to 0.01% of Global Warming and therefore if we as a nation bought the most economical cars possible, drove only when necessary, used public transport as often as possible, boiled the kettle rather than using the gas cooker to heat water and always turned lights and the TV off when leaving the room that it would make virtually NO difference to the world.

Anyone confirm that? Or is it rubbish?

Haha mate,some good tips there on how to offset your carbon footprint,but dont think I"ll be bothering..maybe if EVERYONE did, it might make a difference.Wont affect us, but maybe our grandkids.:dontknow:

 

That's sad...

What work were you doing in Africa if you don't mind me asking, you weren't working on a rig were you??? :laugh:

I was working on a pipe laying barge which lays oil and gas pipes...The oil company pay for all the work to be done and the African government get a share of the profits which will runs into millions and millions of ££££££££££'s and like I said the people never see any of this.

 

Haha mate,some good tips there on how to offset your carbon footprint,but dont think I"ll be bothering..maybe if EVERYONE did, it might make a difference.Wont affect us, but maybe our grandkids.:dontknow:

What I mean is, apparently if we did all of those things, it would only stop 0.01% of global warming. That's what I've heard anyway.

I was working on a pipe laying barge which lays oil and gas pipes...The oil company pay for all the work to be done and the African government get a share of the profits which will runs into millions and millions of ££££££££££'s and like I said the people never see any of this.

That's really bad, if their government get a % then it should go to helping the people who need it most...

 

Hmmm...

I wonder who wrote that letter. I think he/she needs to take some time off whatever they are doing and book some appointments with some oil/business/world economy experts to discuss about how oil prices actually work. I don't think, from reading that letter, they have much idea at all how oil price rise/falls come about - it doesn't even mention OPEC once :hmmmm:

If they think oil is like some other manufactured product which is driven purely by supply and demand then they are a little deluded.
Do they even know which sector the biggest oil users are in the world, and what its used for?

As for arranging one day in the Uk where car drivers don't fill up at certain garages its almost laughable. Surely they must realise that people would fill up the day before or after, or by changing to a different garage (supplier) that the oil demand will remain the same (so no effect); and that car drivers are not the biggest oil users anyway so the only real loosers would be the petrol station outlets ?

Oh well, I encourage the letter writers enthusiasm, I just wish they'd put it to good use and do a bit more research/thinking/studying/learning/reading or whatever so as to gain a basic grasp of the topic he/she is wanting to talk about. The oil industry, prices and influences, is a massively complicated subject, countries go to war over it !

 

Just occurred to me that if cows produce more methane than cars we should lower fuel duty and put a 'Fart Tax' on meat, milk and leather items!

Fuel prices are a bitch and they're gonna hit 2.00 a litre before long. My R32 was bought as a last hurrah before I'm priced off the road.

 

The oil industry, prices and influences, is a massively complicated subject, countries go to war over it !

*Cough* America *Cough*

 

I understand you're fed up with fuel prices (like the rest of us) but here's my view.

There are people in Africa who can't afford to eat and don't have access to clean Water and yet we sit in our warm homes with cupboards full of food and clean running water complaining we have to spend an extra £2.50 a month on fuel for our luxury cars. The point is life isn't fair, but I personally think we have it pretty dam good.

As for Fuel, there are 4 petrol stations in my small town, Esso and BP are the cheapest of the 4...

Also although these companies make a lot of money you have to remember finding oil is VERY risky. These companies risk £ Billions digging for oil and more often than not they get nothing. Then you have the risk factor of leaks or spills and having to pay out £ Billions for that. Not forgetting that oil is slowly running out, therefore these people are in a business that is going to end in the future.

Despite all this the government is what makes fuel so expensive (like others have said above). Then you've got the fact that us petrol heads contribute more to global warming than the average driver :laugh:

As u say Its the Government ripping us off end of!!
Life good here so it might be, it just appears to me there are a lot of countries that that 'have it good' for a lot less cash!!

The states get the oil just we do from the same place yet they still only pay about 60p a litre,
As for war well i'll keep my opinions to myself

 

Don't feel too sorry for the Africans they only pay 60 cents a litre...

 

all said and done it does need to come down!!!!!

 

better start saving them nectar points!!

 

It's interesting how fuel price changes around the country - I live in the South West and most of the petrol is priced at around 129.9 per litre. I travelled to London at the weekend and the prices were cheaper - most seemed to be between 125.9 - 127.9.

Very cheeky! London salaries are higher than the Soutrh West and yet their fuel costs less. In the SouthWest we also have to drive further because stuff just isn't that close to each other and we still pay more.

The other thing I notice is that BP has a forecourt right on the opposite side of the road to a Texaco. Texaco is currently 129.9, while BP is 135.9. BP has always been the most expensive than others by a large margin (~6-7p more per litre), even when they are straight across the road. Does this come down to the rumours sparked 10 years ago that only BP and Shell could supply fuel that would run your car, while others supply vinegar?

I just can't believe I still see people going into BP to spend 6p more a litre than the Texaco across the road. Perhaps it's not the government being foolish, but us!

 

Im just not going to buy petrol ever again! That will teach them........ Oh wait ive not thought that through have i!

I remember the days £2.90 filled a petrol can ! Whats it now? about a tenner!!!

 

Sounds great in theory,but it could never work in practice,Esso & BP have such a large monopoly..If they were boycotted there would mile long queues at the smaller independants.. as Paulie says 75% goes to the government..There is talk though of them waiving the increase set for April,then we"ll all be happy and forget about it, or so theyre hoping.hmmmm.

exactly......
as quoted by that di*hed cameron ' we will fulfill our promise and try and freeze the increase' what this means is that if a stabiliser comes in it will stabilise the price so it looks like it will never go down again.... remember 2009 it hit 1.10 or something then went back down to 80 p then started rising again..... it seems like a pound a litre seems like winning the lottery now!!

 

*Cough* America *Cough*

lol hahah the british keep geing ripped off... america takes iraqis oil while britain help to invade yet still get mugged off... when will someone jus say PISS OFF to them yanks and look after british citizens first... it was estimated if we didnt go to war we would have saved 80 billion and still rising..... no need for cuts today!

 

Bloody hell....Africa....global warming.....are we expected to wear a hair shirt cos we own a car,etc? Britain,Africa,wherever,it's always been a few living high on the hog,and everyone else getting the shaft....always has been,always will! As for global warming,more bullshit made up by the powers that be,to keep the populous scared,and justify ever larger taxes,in this case GREEN ones! Don't believe the hype,the bigger the lie,the more people believe it......