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Morning all,

Back to the drawing board again but this time weighing up my options in terms of front mount intercoolers. What’s the biggest intercooler that you’ve got fitted to a mk4 whilst being able to refit the bumper without too much hassle? Don’t mind shaving the inside of the bumper but externally I want it still in one piece. Similarly crash bar alterations not an issue.

I’ve been offered a custom solution by a big name brand but thought surely it’s something that’s been considered before. I did have a quick google but that was inconclusive. I’ve got a few days to mull it over so any suggestions would be greatly welcomed.

I did originally think about air to water charge cooling but that’s not for me. Trying to keep things simple for now and I’d rather not plumb in a separate reservoir system for a charge cooler.

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Front bumper in one piece and fits like a glove, just some minor modification to the bumper needed :)

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Front bumper in one piece and fits like a glove, just some minor modification to the bumper needed :)


Also ideal for grilling burgers or your latest road kill after a full throttle run. Ideally an intercooler that doesn’t require the external skin to be sliced and diced. Or look like the R32 version of Hannibal Lecter.

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It depends on how much your willing to cut up your bumper inside, and radiator support. I have a Threadstone TR1245 sitting behind my bumper and it’s a pretty big unit. Nothing like the one Lucifer has, but still good for 1000hp. Here’s a picture with and without bumper. It requires a good amount of modifications to radiator support and a little cutting to bumper inside.

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It depends on how much your willing to cut up your bumper inside, and radiator support. I have a Threadstone TR1245 sitting behind my bumper and it’s a pretty big unit. Nothing like the one Lucifer has, but still good for 1000hp. Here’s a picture with and without bumper. It requires a good amount of modifications to radiator support and a little cutting to bumper inside.


Thanks, pictures are especially useful. Inside of my bumper has already been butchered to fit my current cooler so happy to have it cut up more if need be. Does look like a beefy option though.

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I might need to point out that I removed the AC, and I don’t think this cooler will fit if you have AC. But Threadstone makes a cooler same size as mine but not as thick, which will give the room needed, and still be able to support 800hp
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I might need to point out that I removed the AC, and I don’t think this cooler will fit if you have AC. But Threadstone makes a cooler same size as mine but not as thick, which will give the room needed, and still be able to support 800hp


Ah, I should’ve said. I want to retain all the creature comforts, so the AC system would still need to fit. I’m currently knee deep in reading about intercoolers learning about the best compromise between height, width, thickness and surface area. Thanks again 👍🏻

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Ah, I should’ve said. I want to retain all the creature comforts, so the AC system would still need to fit. I’m currently knee deep in reading about intercoolers learning about the best compromise between height, width, thickness and surface area. Thanks again

 

Whats your current setup like & how much power you aiming for in the long run?


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Ah, I should’ve said. I want to retain all the creature comforts, so the AC system would still need to fit. I’m currently knee deep in reading about intercoolers learning about the best compromise between height, width, thickness and surface area. Thanks again


 
Whats your current setup like & how much power you aiming for in the long run?


Have removed my current set up completely and putting together a new kit. Power wise 600ish but I want sufficient headroom. Especially with the intercooler, if I head into Europe in the summer I don’t want to be fighting heat soak.

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You shouldn't find it too difficult to get a core size efficient enough to run that sorta power to fit behind the front bumper.

I was in the same situation as you aiming for the 500 mark but over engineered it to future proof it, but the mk5 has more room to play wi5h from what I've seen.
If your concerned bout heat soak during the summer months then just run a meth kit 50/50 mix and that'll be plenty enough to keep intake temps down!!!
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You shouldn't find it too difficult to get a core size efficient enough to run that sorta power to fit behind the front bumper.
I was in the same situation as you aiming for the 500 mark but over engineered it to future proof it, but the mk5 has more room to play wi5h from what I've seen.
If your concerned bout heat soak during the summer months then just run a meth kit 50/50 mix and that'll be plenty enough to keep intake temps down!!!
I'll post a pic of my IC setup later


Yeah it’s just finding what fits. Was hoping to see what other people were using then I’ll be able to make more of an educated guess as to what will fit. Swerving meth injection for now, rather see if I can get what I want power wise whilst keeping it as simple as possible.

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Maybe give Andy or the boys at storm a call they have produced some big power vr6s and know what works and fits.

I have the forge 8V RS3 cooler waiting to go on mine soon altho mine is mk5 and like abz said above, think we may have more room cud be a thought tho
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You can have the biggest FMIC in the world fitted if you want but if it is hidden behind a front bumper with no air flow it is pointless really. 


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You can have the biggest FMIC in the world fitted if you want but if it is hidden behind a front bumper with no air flow it is pointless really. 


To a certain degree yeah, it’s about having a core with an efficient design for your specific application. Also have to consider the Venturi effect the lower centre grill opening will have. All fun and games.




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