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New brakes update. I spend a happy couple of hours on Sunday afternoon bleeding the whole system . No trace of any air from the rears but a few bubbles from each front. Anyway, another 2 litres of fluid later, no bubbles remained . Any any difference? Yep. Before I was satisfied, now I am pleased. Pedal travel and feel are much improved( although there is far too much servo assistance for my taste ) . They are more progressive than the o.e .ones and just as powerful , if not even more so when provoked . So, weight saving where it makes a difference, they look nice , improve pedal feel and response, and are confidence inspiring . 
The Brembo 18z path I was going to tread would have cost me a bit less, but not given the unsprung weight saving and increased pedal travel slightly.All the same , it would have been an interesting back to back comparison to do . Feel free someone ! 


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Two more irons in the fire. The first is a rear brake upgrade. I had that at the back of my mind and then got into a conversation with IllegalR32 , which moved the idea from back seat to front row. More to come on this one when all the bits turn up. Second is wingback seats . By this I mean the Recarro CS style . I looked at the Corbeau RRS . Nice seat, can be upholstered in a huge range of fabrics and colours . The RRB from the same company I found very comfortable but it comes in black or, if your prefer, black, and hardly folds much below 90degrees, limiting rear access. Not an absolute deal breaker but what was that my wife could not get comfortable in one, so the passenger seat would need to be the RRS . Odd seats in the front of an R32? Perhaps not. 
Then the option of the Recarros from a Corsa VXR . Look nice and the right colours, and in a combination of cloth and faux leather , and fairly priced , but they are not the CS ,despite  what what people say in their adverts . And next, the ‘ genuine ‘ ‘ wingbacks from upmarket Audi’s etc. . Folk are asking north of £2k , perhaps justifiably , but (a) I am not keen on all leather seats and (B) the wingbacks look, to my eye, just too , well, portly ( wait for a barrage of adverse remarks to follow) so they were off the list .

 Now for the sacrilege . Nissan Juke Nismo RS seats . Recarro CS seats made by , err, Recarro for the , err, Juke . Lovely combination of grey cloth and dark red leather . Height adjustable . I really like them . Slight snag will be fitting . I will need to break out welder, drills angle grinder in order to fit them . Many may baulk at the idea of that colour combination in the front of an R32 , but I think that the rest of the interior is so sombre that it can take it. If I am mistaken it will be a very expensive one . 
Pictures to follow when I go and collect them ( ie when it is legal to do so, hopefully by the weekend ) 



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And here are the 4 pot Brembos from the back end of a Cayenne/Touareg/Q7 . The set shown are in fact bound for Klemen (IllegalR32) but you get the idea . The mounting brackets are ordered, and come from Epytec. They are an impressive company . 
The shiny bits are from Bigg Red, another very helpful company to deal with who offer a huge range of caliper and brake system repair items , and at decent prices . 
I suppose we can speculate for ages on the value , or otherwise of upgrading rear brakes beyond the ones fitted by VW . On front wheel drive cars , there is a strong argument for concentrating on the fronts . My limited experience of four wheel drive systems suggests that improvements at the rear can reap benefits . 
Anyway , interesting experiment . 
Seat collection this weekend, so some seat porn photos to come . 

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Forgot about seats you have mentioned in our talks! Sorry for that. You really researched a lot of options! I was looking at RRS's from Corbeau a few years ago for my mk4 and they are really looking like a great and quality seats, but compared to the Recaro's - they don't stand a chance!

 

Hopefully you are going to get the Juke ones fitted without too much of a grind. As far as I am informated, the only thing different are the seat guides? Is it possible to buy the golf 5 ones from Recaro directly and bolt the seats on them??

 

Again, thank you for sorting the rear brake calipers for me. I am going to tell the story once I dig into it in my thread, because you really are the best fellow member on the R32oc I've met :)

 

Keep us informed with both seat and rear brake upgrades smile.gif Making the best of our cars wub.png 



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Funnily enough, a package from Epytec arrived this morning containing some brake adaptor plates and all the fittings. Really nicely made. As for the seats , I will extract them from the back of my car this afternoon ( once I’ve done a turbo session) and examine properly . I do nit think that the aftermarket Recarro seat adaptors will fit directly on these seats as the bolt spacing is not the same . As the Nissan subframe are height adjustable I would quite like to keep them if I can . If I can find out what the airbag resistance is I may even be able to use the Nissan airbags , but I do have some new plugs already wired with 4.4ohm resistors  as a plan ‘b’ .

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Seats. As promised. The photographs show that the snag with these lovely Recarro seats is that Recarro made them especially for the Nissan Juke. The drivers side is height adjustable., but the snag is that the back of the seat is integrated into the upper part of the subframe containing the height adjustment and the recline pivot. Upshot is that ideally I want to make the lower part ( the bit in the bench) fit the Golf floorpan seat fixings so that the complete seat simply bolts in without modification . For the passenger side, it may be a bit too high, but I will see. 

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And now the Brembo 4 pots. These have been for a long soak in my parts cleaner , had a firm talking to from a wire brush ( brass bristles of course!) then a telling off from some Emery tape and scotchbrite and finally a poke in the eye with another brass brush on the whirly end of a drill. The next stage will be a thorough clean in brake cleaner , brush and then an air line. Then I will see. Oh, degreaser is Jizer. If you do something similar and use Jizer, bear in mind it destroys seals . Still a long way to go with these but the initial clean shows then to be in decent shape . Pistons are good too , which means the refurb is just seals , bleed  nipples and some fresh pads and locating pins and springs . 
 

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Nice job with the brakes, let's see what you got for us next :D

 

About seats, wow  this is a strange design!!! Going to require a lot of thinking on how to fit them into the MK5 and I know you are going to make it out!!  :D The look of them is top notch! :D The fact that the sportiest modern cars such as focus rs, megan rs and orthers are using Recaro CS's just approves these are awesome!



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I have begun some work on the seat frames . There are a couple of issues . The first one is that the o.e seat mounting bolts are 480mm apart. The ones on the Nismos are 410mm apart. So, some adaptor plates that I have begun to make and then weld to the runners and then drill at 480mm centres to allow the rails to fit to the floor. That would be job done , but the next snag is height. ( Some Nissan boys have tried to fit these seats into their 350/370Z cars. And they have had a battle because of the height) The seats are height adjustable . At their lowest setting that are slightly above the o.e seats at their highest .So, I need to modify the system to drop the seat by, ideally , 3-4 cm . The passenger one will be a bit easier as it is fixed, but the drivers side is , err, work in progress. 
Oh. Brakes. I think you said you plan to spray yours . Do you know what type of paint you plan to use? I ask as finding some that is resistant to brake fluid, brake and clutch cleaner and possibly petrol is not that easy . Foliatec looks from the few reviews I have read to be pretty good, and thinners are now available so it’s possible to spray the stuff. Ordinary car body paint and a coat of clear lacquer may not cut it, but I am not a paint guru, so others on here including your goodself will know more .


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Sounds liek a good plan to sort seats out!

 

I am going to paint the calipers professionally. Epoxi primer --> mixed car paint (do not worry about heat resistance, it's completely OK) --> stickers --> lacquer



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Right. Thank you. Yes. The heat resistance is not an issue for a road car. The track day boys can warm up calipers but ours will be lucky to see 100 degrees c 



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Back to seats. I have read quite a lot about the side airbag  defeat recipes. The Nismo seats do have airbags but it is hard to know if they are compatible with the igniter control system fitted in the R32, so the defeat plan looks the easiest. However, a question that someone here will know. Depending upon which thread  I read , I should use a 4.4ohm resistor or a 3ohm resistor . If it was almost anything else , I would just measure the airbag resistance with my DMM. However, as I have no idea what the igniter trigger current is , I do not want to risk the DMM, even though it probably produces way below 1mA when on the resistance range . Can someone put me out of my misery .?

Oh, and not checked, but I assume that the seat belt warning light is just triggered by a switch in the seat belt stalk. That will also need connecting  so I hope the Nismo ones are the same as the ones on the VW seats, as if not , I will have to rob them from the VW seats .



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Seats update. I stripped down the passenger seat as that one is not height adjustable . The picture shows the bare frame to which the runners bolt underneath , the seat base to the top and the seat back on the fixed brackets . The tilt mechanism in built into the seat back frame . The snags with this frame are that the runners are about 6cm too close and , more problematical , the frame sits too high. In some debate with myself as to the best way to lower 4 or 5 cm ..

Something to think about . They are nice seats though, just an absolute sod to fit. 
 

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8 hours of thinking, measuring ,cutting, grinding and welding later I have passenger side subframe that is 5cm lower than it was this morning, the rails are 7cm further apart and it fits in place of the o.e seat. I still have to modify ( ie widen ) the slider release lever but that is relatively straight forward.Fortunately, the drivers side is less of a problem as, being height adjustable, it does not need lowered, just the runners spaced further apart and the slider lever widening. I also sussed the passenger seat occupancy sensor already installed in the Nismos  and I am pretty sure I can just wire it and the seat belt stalk into the o.e wiring ( with a replacement plug ) and that should behave itself. 
The other result was my airbag defeat connector worked with a 4.7ohm resistor, so I am really please about that. Not done the drivers side, but the plug made , so when I start work on that side, ready to go on the resistor front. The passenger seat area is vacant at the moment as the job is not complete , but the car is o.k to drive with no airbag warning lights ( although on connecting the battery back up I do have the ESP light and the power steering fault light on, both of which I hope will extinguish once I drive the car . 

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Phew. 11 hours and still counting. The passenger subframe is finished and painted . Slider actuation lever modified and painted , so I only need one little connector to convert the Nismo occupancy sensor plug to fit the VW socket and the passenger side is ready to be installed. Oh, have done both airbag defeat mods. Looks to be o.k( well, the airbag light goes out after a few seconds so I hope so ) 

The drivers side should not be quite as much hassle, but I do recall reading something on a Nissan forum when I was looking for / researching these seats that a garage had managed to put them in a 370z ( which is much lower) and spent 20hours in labour making the modifications. Well, I believe it .
I will not dive into the rear brake upgrade, although some spare rear hubs arrived yesterday , connected to the complete rear suspension , subframe and diff if a 2.0litre Mk5 tdi 4 motion , Illegal R32 is in charge of that department and will doubtless post his stunning camera work in due course. This one is not to be rushed but savoured . 😊

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Cracking work Andy, I wish I had half your talent!



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Thank you. Not sure it is talent. For these seats, more like determination. 


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Excellent and superb work with that passenger seat bracket Andy! good.gif

 

May I ask, are you keeping the seats in black/red combo?



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And the answer to your question is below. Right. Passenger seat now complete ( nearly) and installed. I say nearly as the cover plate that fits on the side of the seat and covers the subframe and slider is missing . It did not come with the seats ( I should have checked when I collected them) and even if it had, as the seat is now 5.5cm lower(  I had to fight for every mm ) so  the o.e panel would not have fitted. I will make a new one and fix in place . The electrics all work ( ie occupancy sensor and the seat belt switch ) which is nice. 
I am really pleased with the outcome. It is very comfortable and supportive and , to my eye at least, looks great. I really like the touch of the cherry red, although it would be nice if the grey was a perfect match for the rear seats . 
The next job is , oh start all over again with the drivers seat . 

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Seats round two. Ten hours later and some progress. 
As it is unlikely that anyone else in this universe  going to fit Nissan Juke RS Nismo seats into their Mk5 Golf, I am not sure that this particular instalment of my build thread is going to be a best seller, with a readership of one ( the author ) , but utter irrelevance has not put me off before, so I see no reason to change now .😊

The problem with the driver seat is that it is height adjustable. The raise and lower part of the mechanism is built into the rear of the seat base frame, and operates a pair of levers which rotate through an arc. The rear ends of the runner supports pivot on the ends of those levers, whilst the front end of the same runner supports   pivot on a similar pair of levers that fix to the front of the seat frame. The pictures help with understanding a bit. The bugger is that the runner supports are 7cm too close together to sit on the Golf floorpan in the correct position, so the runner supports have to move outwards, but the tilt mechanism has to stay where it is . So, at the front, the tube that supports the front levers has to grow by 7cm, but the growth has to be outboard of the levers, As the ends of this tube were bushed  to allow for rotation, extending each end by 35mm and replicating the bush was a tad tricky. 
At the back of the runner support, the lever attachment points had to move inwards by 35mm to keep said attachment point in the same place. That took a bit of fabrication and welding to replicate the original construction . 
Anyway, done and painted. Now allI have to do is to widen the slide release lever by 7cm ,  modify the seat belt stalk wiring to plug into the VW socket and I am home and dry ( apart from re drilling the rear of the runners to match the rear mounting point on the floor . 

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The extension work is probably easier to see in this photograph . 

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There is almost no chance of me doing this but I do find it fascinating, keep up the good work, it's going to look great.

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Back from the depths of sunny Rugby having spend Christmas with my mother in law ( who is 93) . 
Anyway, bit of playtime in the garage allowed me to finish the slider release bar , so all,being well tomorrow will see the other Recarro move from inside the garage to the drivers side of an R32 

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And it is in! The drivers seat that is . Everything works, but I am not quite sore that all the faff with the height adjustment was worth it as , on its very lowest setting , it is plenty high enough so I will not be using the facility to raise it further. Overall, I am pleased with the outcome. I had to modify the plastic guard on the drivers side as the revised runner position meant that said cover would not fit. I am not convinced about the outcome, but I am making a cover for the passenger side , so I will see how it turns out, and if I like it, I may start again on the drivers side. 
Anyway , the finished article .

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Looks fantastic and totally unique!
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and finally. The side trims. The passenger one was missing and the drivers’ side required, err , modification. So, made one for the passenger side and covered in black felt. Not sure about the outcome ( ie better with or without as without the black painted subframe and runners is on show ) You decide ! 
Happy new year .😊

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I drove the car this morning for the first time with my backside planted in a Recarro. Now, having spent £1500 and 25 hours of garage time , I am almost duty bound to be very pleased. So I let the rose tint from my glasses subside a little before trying to make a considered judgement . Tint duly removed, let’s just say that I will,not be putting the o.e ones back in. These new seats are exceptional in the way that they offer support . They make the car even nicer to be in and to drive, and cornering is no longer a drama . So very pleased indeed. My note of caution only be to those who are perhaps of a slightly more generous proportion in the fundament . I am 32”  waist and fit snugly  between the seat base bolsters , They would stand a slightly larger waist/ hip but not much . On that basis , I am not altogether surprised that some folk who bought a Juke RS Nismo changed the seats ( this came up quite a lot on the Nissan Juke forum ( Yep, there is one ) . 
I have a tiny patch of leather wear / discolouration to fix on the drivers seat , but I am hoping that the leather colour restorer that is in the post will do the trick . 
Oh, the seat height. Absolutely fine , but I could have thrown away the height adjustment and welded the  seat frame in the position it is now and saved about 8 hours of faffing about . 
Next stop. Rear brakes . More to follow. Happy new year ! 


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Just re-read the thread. It's good to see someone with your obvious mechanical and fab skills document all the work.
I have the vw wingbacks in my car, they really set it off imo much like yours now do.
Have used the leather restore kits myself on our couch, come up really well.

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Happy New Year Andy, enjoy your hard work in good health!



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Cheers and thank you . Somewhat to my surprise, I like the car now even more than I did when I bought it, and I was pretty keen then. Often with a ‘new’ car, once the novelty has worn off, the initial enthusiasm wains, but not with this one. 






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